JUNKe Life

There’s only one problem with your theory……I do both also and I can tell you right nowthat the high from junk (even in a lessor quantity and quality)is still better then the Morphine. My main stay is MS Contin, 100MG each 3 times a day also, and 4 bags of dope (4 bags out of a bundle) is better I think……much better.

wow, saving like THAT makes a lot of sense. And I was able to follow along…

Look at that, finishing high school WAS worthwhile after all.

I’ve been a really horribly heavy user, used moderately, and right now for the past year I’m an occasional user, lacking the control 1 or 2 times a month to go out and shell out my paycheck for H. Obviously theres more than one reason they call it junk, b/c half the time I’d get a better rush throwing the stuff off of a cliff.

Anyway, you just saved me alot of money on my dope insurance by switching to Morphine.

If you do ever have time to email me, please do- I just have a few questions I’m curious about.

thanks!

-Holland
(friendlyfascism@hushmail.com)

I am prescribed 140 ml of tincture of opium each month for digestion issues. This leaves about 20 ml to play with beyond the needed doses. Each ml has 10mg of morphine in it. Does anyone know what I could do to make the high more fun? I mainlined 2 ml of tincture and that feels good.

I’d really like to make it snortable if it could be worth the effort. I used to snort heroin and loved the feeling of puking without feeling it in my stomach muscles. It felt “cleansing” in a way.

I tried microwaving it dry and scraping it up for snorting but the tincture is still gooey and not that good. To make it worse they “deodorize” the pharmaceutical and it removes the puking reaction.

Unfortunately I moved here from NY 8 years ago and do not have any street connections–plus my accountant wife is quick to notice extra spending. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. –I’m assuming that creating a rock is impossible

Thanks,
Otto

PS – does anyone know if that legal bud that looks like the real deal is any good? If you do, please tell me about it.

Hey Otto

I’ve never even seen tincture of opium so unfortunately I don’t have any experiential advice to offer you.

Similarly, I know nothing about the so-called legal bud – the fake pot. However, I’ve heard it is a scam and waste of money.

As for newbie’s question about puking. Often, when a person is new to opiates, they get somewhat sick or nauseous to their stomach from the first few doses. Puking immediately relieves that. And it is a funny kind of puking because it feels good, and really isn’t disturbing at all.

However, once one has used a few times, that symptom soon goes away. I remember puking the first time I really did a good hit of heroin, but I haven’t puked in all the years since.

100mg of morphine is a very large dose for someone who isn’t used to using morphine. In fact, 10mg is sufficient to really feel the effects if one is using for the first time. And 100mg would be way too much, in fact, it could be near an overdose amount.

Opiates have a property called “tolerance”. This means that one fairly quickly gets uses to the dose they are doing, and needs a bigger dose to feel the same results. So, a first time user would feel very effected by a small ten mg dose. Whereas a dependent user would not even feel ten mgs.

So, if you have a 100mg pill, you should take off the coating (if it is gray in colour) by sucking on it like an M ‘n M for a minutes, and then wiping off the coating with a kleenex. Then you should crush it up into a powder. Then take 1/10 of the powder and prepare it according to the method explained here

Yo ktx49. Why the abusive personal tone?

Nonetheless, I hear ya. It’s good to hear from an authentic voice of experience.

With regard to hazards: there are hazards and then there are !!!hAzArDs!!! When a strong batch of heroin hits the streets, people start dropping like flies. You are familiar with that unfortunate reality, correct? Public Warnings are given – “Watch out for strong batch of killer heroin!” – by community agencies, user groups, sometimes even the police. And still our deaths pile up untill warnings are heeded and/or dealers re-cut their stuff.

On the other hand, when was the last time you heard of a public announcement warning us to “Watch out for the unusually strong batch of morphine”? Never, correct? That is the sort of hazard I’m referring to when I suggest that being a piller is generally safer.

As for extended release properties, you assume they are hazardous; even intentionally so to prevent IV abuse. But do you actually know that to be true? There is no “wax” (as contin gunk is often called) in contins. If you want to check into the actual make up of MSContins, these are its listed inactive ingredients: cetostearyl alcohol, hydroxyethyl cellulose, hypromellose, magnesium stearate, polyethylene glycol, talc, lactose, polysorbate 80, titanium dioxide and some colour additive such as FD&C Blue No. 2 or black iron oxide.

I have spoken with physicians who’ve said such additives are essentially benign. Whereas the same certainly can not be said for the adulterants in what is too often passed off as “good junk” these days.

Regarding relative strength equivalency: yes, heroin is 3 to 4 times more powerful. Why golly gosh gee, even an idiot knows that. However, that vaunted ratio is completely theoretical when it comes to our reality because it is based on pharmaceutically pure equivalences. Street junk is never pharmaceutically pure (i.e. a point is never truly a tenth of a gram of 100% heroin) whereas morphine is alway the actual labelled dosage (100 mg is 100 mg of 100% pharmaceutical morphine). So, it is that reality regarding purity of doses that needs to be factored in when considering relative equivalencies or else we’re just talking out of books.

And finally, it would be rude if I didn’t not thank you so much for the informative lesson in pharmacokinetics. Silly me, I must have been nodding off in my pharmacology class. No wonder I’ve always assumed the BBB was a beta blocking bulldozer. Well, now I know different, eh?

btw, did you catch my earlier comment above?

[junk is better... way better] So true. I would choose junk over morphine anyday. If there was a spoon of junk and a spoon of morphine on the table, I’d cook up the junk 100 times outta 100.

The high is way better. Junk is a high, whereas morphine is just a buzz, and well, at least its an opiate.

I suppose to some extent I’m just looking at the silver lining of having a pharmaceutical community. It is safer. It is cheaper.

Well, it’s been a rush! I’d love to tit-for-tat more, but I gotta run.

“I am your nurse… and you are my hospital.”
Raymond Stolp, 2003

See Ray’s greatest live performance here:

Where can I buy MS Contin or Oxi? I’ve tried different sites on the web but most prices are extremely high, and not sure who and which ones to trust or go through.

Any suggestions anyone?

ps. This blog is very informative and it seems like it’s coming from someone that knows his stuff.

you’re somewhat manipulating the math to make it show what you want, that ms contin is a better value than heroin (for you, in your location and with your dealers it may be, but not always for everyone – $25 a point is certainly above average, more than double average price)

bigger factor – you’re talking about how you get a mg of this or an mg or that-
well you’re not making any mention that heroin is more potent mg for mg than morphine, by most accounts 2-3 times more potent. don’t forget to factor that into your rigged math.

I don’t mean to be a dick at all. I’m just a nitpicker and a former junk addict myself. All that really matters is that you shoot safely, and if you ever want to give it up, best of luck in doing so. Peace.

Morphine 100mg is fine to take. I started off taking 1/2 though. I’d 4 sure recommend that! Iam a Certified Medical Assistant.

HEY POOCS , why in the world after being clean for 2 years would you ever want to go back to hell of a life, that you have on drugs. I would give anything to be drug free but I have had several surgeries on my jaw and back that make it impossible to live with the pain. Yes I have abused my drugs, had been in detox a few times over the years but at the end of the day I still need something for pain. Things get out of control, I get off for sometimes a few years but I always end up back on. I am on morphine right now and wish i knew how much is to much. I am taking about 8 x 25 mg tables of morphine a day. Is that to much everythin i have ever been on has been prescribed for me by a doctor, you would think that it should make a difference as far as getting yourself hooked , NOT!! I am a person who has always gotten addicted to what ever has been perscribed for me. Yes I have been lucky I have not had to hit the streets for my drugs. You can be living in a beautiful home but feel like you are on the streets honest to God!! Right now is a horrible time, I don’t know when anything is ever going to get better for me anymore. I guess it makes me very sad that someone who does not have chronic pain would choose this life but then again its almost like it chooses us, hey. I judge no one for what has happened or happens in their life and I wish all of you in here many blessings to come.
Maybe I will come back again to talk for I do not have anyone I can talk to about the addiction part of this!!

Yep, I agree whith why JUNKe says pills are safer, cause you know what youre getting, pretty much every time. And its coming from a pharmacy,(hopefully), who knows where that horse is coming from. Although, (and im sure most of you pillers know this) they are making certain pills to where an opiate addict would not be able to dilute em and shoot em.

….but where there’s a will, there’s a way, right?

I wanna know where I can get 100mg morphine for $8! thats a deal i cant find here….it’s more like $50-$60 =( rediculous. and dope GOOD dope would be MUCH better.

i never herd a bunch of idiots like you guys, first herion 10 dollars a bag 80 a bundle you have to have a tolarance or youll be puking your brains out and itching like crazy as of shooting pills thats more dangerous then herion i know one idiot who tried to shoot percocet the actephetamine killed him

guys you all would be better off spending a few months growing poppies and producing your own pure opium, morphine, or heroin. the shit is really simple and anyone can do it.

This place is gross! How can anyone continue indefinitely living in a sickened state where nothing ever feels settled or right? I left that life behind in 1991 and it’s been good ever since. All that stuff–especially opiates or coke leads only to misery. I do not remember writing because I was on an anticholinergenic that clouded (and erased parts of) my mind. I can only speculate I was busting balls in what I thought was an obscure corner of the web. Seriously, though, it’s not worth it. I know any practicing addict has a “hole in their soul” that seems to never stay full. I also know that people in that state do not really believe it is possible to leave that emptiness behind–but it is. It really is and I honestly do not think about using anymore. When a thought does cross my mind I automatically “think it through” and ask if I really want that sort of result in my life–Not! I was in the grip, as a teen, for 7 years. Even addicts can get better and actually learn how to feel, really feel!, content. Have a nice day Believe it or not you deserve it.

Different drugs have different effects. Some, such as cocaine or methamphetamine, may produce an intense “rush” and initial feelings of boundless energy. Others, such as heroin, benzodiazepines or the prescription oxycontin, may produce excessive feelings of relaxation and calm. What most drugs have in common, though, is overstimulation of the pleasure center of the brain. With time, the brain’s chemistry is actually altered to the point where not having the drug becomes extremely uncomfortable and even painful. This compelling urge to use, addiction, becomes more and more powerful, disrupting work, relationships, and health.

Am I an Addict?
This is NA Fellowship-approved literature.
Copyright © 1983, 1988 by
Narcotics Anonymous World Services, Inc.
All rights reserved.
Only you can answer this question.
This may not be an easy thing to do. All through our usage, we told ourselves, “I can handle
it.” Even if this was true in the beginning, it is not so now. The drugs handled us. We lived to
use and used to live. Very simply, an addict is a person whose life is controlled by drugs.
Perhaps you admit you have a problem with drugs, but you don’t consider yourself an addict.
All of us have preconceived ideas about what an addict is. There is nothing shameful about being
an addict once you begin to take positive action. If you can identify with our problems, you may
be able to identify with our solution. The following questions were written by recovering addicts
in Narcotics Anonymous. If you have doubts about whether or not you’re an addict, take a few
moments to read the questions below and answer them as honestly as you can.
1. Do you ever use alone? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
2. Have you ever substituted one drug for another, thinking that
one particular drug was the problem? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
3. Have you ever manipulated or lied to a doctor
to obtain prescription drugs? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
4. Have you ever stolen drugs or stolen to obtain drugs? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
5. Do you regularly use a drug when you wake up or when you go to bed? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
6. Have you ever taken one drug to overcome the effects of another? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
7. Do you avoid people or places that do not approve of you using drugs? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
8. Have you ever used a drug without knowing what it was􀀃
or what it would do to you? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
9. Has your job or school performance ever suffered
from the effects of your drug use? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
10. Have you ever been arrested as a result of using drugs? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
11. Have you ever lied about what or how much you use? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
12. Do you put the purchase of drugs ahead of
your financial responsibilities? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
13. Have you ever tried to stop or control your using? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
14. Have you ever been in a jail, hospital,
or drug rehabilitation center because of your using? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
15. Does using interfere with your sleeping or eating? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
16. Does the thought of running out of drugs terrify you? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
17. Do you feel it is impossible for you to live without drugs? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
18. Do you ever question your own sanity? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
19. Is your drug use making life at home unhappy? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
20. Have you ever thought you couldn’t fit in or have a good time
without drugs? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
21. Have you ever felt defensive, guilty, or ashamed about your using? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
22. Do you think a lot about drugs? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
23. Have you had irrational or indefinable fears? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
24. Has using affected your sexual relationships? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
25. Have you ever taken drugs you didn’t prefer? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
26. Have you ever used drugs because of emotional pain or stress? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
27. Have you ever overdosed on any drugs? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
28. Do you continue to use despite negative consequences? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
29. Do you think you might have a drug problem? Yes 􀁔 No 􀁔
“Am I an addict?” This is a question only you can answer. We found that we all answered
different numbers of these questions “Yes.” The actual number of “Yes” responses wasn’t as
important as how we felt inside and how addiction had affected our lives.
Some of these questions don’t even mention drugs. This is because addiction is an insidious
disease that affects all areas of our lives—even those areas which seem at first to have little to do
with drugs. The different drugs we used were not as important as why we used them and what
they did to us.
When we first read these questions, it was frightening for us to think we might be addicts.
Some of us tried to dismiss these thoughts by saying:
“Oh, those questions don’t make sense;”
Or,
“I’m different. I know I take drugs, but I’m not an addict. I have real emotional/family/job
problems;”
Or,
“I’m just having a tough time getting it together right now;”
Or,
“I’ll be able to stop when I find the right person/get the right job, etc.”
If you are an addict, you must first admit that you have a problem with drugs before any
progress can be made toward recovery. These questions, when honestly approached, may help
to show you how using drugs has made your life unmanageable. Addiction is a disease which,
without recovery, ends in jails, institutions, and death. Many of us came to Narcotics
Anonymous because drugs had stopped doing what we needed them to do. Addiction takes
our pride, self-esteem, family, loved ones, and even our desire to live. If you have not reached
this point in your addiction, you don’t have to. We have found that our own private hell was
within us. If you want help, you can find it in the Fellowship of Narcotics Anonymous.
“We were searching for an answer when we reached out and found Narcotics Anonymous.
We came to our first NA meeting in defeat and didn’t know what to expect. After sitting in a
meeting, or several meetings, we began to feel that people cared and were willing to help.
Although our minds told us that we would never make it, the people in the fellowship gave us
hope by insisting that we could recover. […] Surrounded by fellow addicts, we realized that we
were not alone anymore. Recovery is what happens in our meetings. Our lives are at stake. We
found that by putting recovery first, the program works. We faced three disturbing realizations:
1. We are powerless over addiction and our lives are unmanageable;
2. Although we are not responsible for our disease, we are responsible for our recovery;
3. We can no longer blame people, places, and things for our addiction. We must face our
problems and our feelings.
The ultimate weapon for recovery is the recovering addict.”

Heroin

Years ago, thoughts of using a needle kept many potential heroin users at bay. Not anymore. Today’s heroin is so pure, users can smoke it or snort it, causing more kids under 18 to use it. Kids who snort or smoke heroin face the same high risk of overdose and death that haunts intravenous users. Yet according to the annual Monitoring the Future national poll, more than 40% of high school seniors do not believe that there is a great risk in trying heroin.

Recent studies suggest a shift from injecting to snorting or smoking heroin because of increased purity and the misconception that these forms of use will not lead to addiction.

Heroin is processed from morphine, a naturally occurring substance extracted from the seed-pod of the Asian poppy plant. Heroin usually appears as a white or brown powder. Street names associated with heroin include “smack,” “H,” “skag,” and “junk.” Other names may refer to types of heroin produced in a specific geographical area, such as “Mexican black tar.”

The short-term effects of heroin abuse appear soon after a single dose and disappear in a few hours. After an injection of heroin, the user reports feeling a surge of euphoria (”rush”) accompanied by a warm flushing of the skin, a dry mouth, and heavy extremities. Following this initial euphoria, the user goes “on the nod,” an alternately wakeful and drowsy state. Mental functioning becomes clouded due to the depression of the central nervous system.

Reports from the Drug Abuse Warning Networks (DAWN) Annual Medical Examiner Data from 1997 show that heroin/morphine was the top-ranking drug among drug-related deaths in 14 US major metro areas. It ranked second in another eight.

According to DAWNs Year End 1998 Emergency Department Data, 14 percent of all emergency department drug-related episodes had mentions of heroin/morphine in 1998. From 1991-1996, the number of heroin/morphine mentions more than doubled.

Health Hazards

Irreversible effects. Heroin abuse is associated with serious health conditions, including fatal overdose, spontaneous abortion, collapsed veins, and infectious diseases, including HIV/AIDS and hepatitis.

Long-term effects. Long-term effects of heroin include collapsed veins, infection of the heart lining and valves, abscesses, cellulitis, and liver disease. Pulmonary complications, including various types of pneumonia, may result from the poor health condition of the abuser, as well as from heroin’s depressing effects on respiration.

Infection. In addition to the effects of the drug itself, street heroin may have additives that do not readily dissolve and result in clogging the blood vessels that lead to the lungs, liver, kidneys, or brain. This can cause infection or even death of small patches of cells in vital organs.

The 12-Step Program

Please review each step and try to either begin following them yourself or enroll in a local program. Let’s take a look at the steps. You will see quickly that the process includes others and that we are not meant to go through this alone.

These 12-Steps were written for alcoholics. When you see alcohol, insert your drug of choice.

Step One:

We admitted that we were powerless over alcohol–that our lives had become unmanageable.

Step Two:

Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

Step Three:

Make a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God, as we understand Him.

Step Four:

Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

Step Five:

Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

Step Six:

Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

Step Seven:

Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

Step Eight:

Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

Step Nine:

Made direct amends to such people whenever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

Step Ten:

Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.

Step Eleven:

Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

Step Twelve:

Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to addicts and to practice these principles in our affairs.

Just remember, God didn’t put you here to go about life in a stunted, half-grown and aware manner. What would be the point?

How can I reach the owner or moderator of this blog? I posted something 2 years ago that is likely to harm me. Can I get a comment removed that I never would have posted had I not been messed up on medicine for a life-threatening condition? I has ulcerative colititis that was not responding to medicine and had to have my whole large intestine removed. Please help me if you can or at least please let me know if that isn’t going to happen. Thank you.

OPIATED sez: Remember folks, you are not compelled to use your real name, a real abbreviation thereof, or anything that bares the barest resemblance to your real identification. This includes your email. Don’t say stuff you wouldn’t want your local big bro or your prescribing doc to read… or your curious, cautious sweetie pie.

Opiated, thanks for everything! I really appreciate the help. Otto

Oops, I meant pain, not page & part not parts.