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Cooking slow-release morphine tablets continued…
January 5, 2010, 2:04 pm
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Here’s a link you won’t want to miss:

Effect of filtration on morphine and particle content of injections prepared from slow-release oral morphine tablets

Basically that’s a link to research reported in the Harm Reduction Journal about filtering out the particles from crushed morphine pills.  One big concern people sometimes have is that filtering will block out lots of the morphine along with the insoluble particles.   The good news is that filtering leases the morphine and just removes the crap particles.  In fact, even after double and triple filtering, still up to 90 per cent of the pill’s morphine dose remained in the solution ready to inject.

Morphine cooking spoon

One problem with filtering is that coarse filters, such as cigarette filters, still let through lots of small particles.  However, using really fine filters often get blocked because they remove so many particles.  But there is a sensible solution – filter twice.  The first time use a cigarette filter, and then the second time, run the mixture you got back through the cigarette filter into a very fine sterilizing filter.   Since all the big particles are already removed by the cigarette filter, the mixture can go through the sterilizing filter and get the very fine particles removed.

In the end you’ll be left with a solution which is essentially free of tablet-derived particles yet still retains upwards of 90 per cent of all the morphine.   Doubtless lots of people have been filtering this way already, but now we’ve got actual scientific proof that this method works great.  It keeps us both health (particles removed) and high (no loss of dose).

Remember a good “meal” is the result of careful preparation!  Happy cooking!

Earlier post about filtering and injecting


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I’m glad this info is getting out there. Thanks.

Wheel filters are really wonderful devices. Even for the new type of SROM pills that has dozens of tiny beads inside a capsule. One huge tip – the beads are made from wax so always use cold water instead of hot water!

Keep up the good work!

Comment by Terry Wright

Thanks for the info on that Terry! Cold water it is with those from now on.

Comment by K. Killer

Hey, good post, very useful information. Here in Canada we get premade cotton filters from our exchanges and I’ve never had problems with them, they filter extremely well and don’t break down. I mean re-use is not recommended but they’re very resilient.

Really awesome blog, glad to see I’m not the only one!

Comment by Junkie_Monkey

Are you aware that morphine breaks down at 180 degrees F? So by boiling your dope, you are in essence decreasing the dosage of your shot. I use a method for MS-contin that requires no boiling and I’d be willing to put my method against yours and come out with a product much stronger than the one you render. Heat is Morphines enemy. NEVER EVER BOIL it. It’s a waste.

Comment by THom Foolery

Also, BY boiling the solution some of the wax is able to be drawn into your syringe. I can’t believe you are telling people to not use a filter! WHen this wax cools it collects in the lungs and heart and will cause irreversible damage years down the line. Mallies can be prepped with very little heat using the crisping method. SLowly heated without water, then shocked with saline solution to break down the time release matrix. The solutinf is like pure water. THen drawn into your syringe, thru a filter. None of the wax mixes with the solution because it doesnt get hot enough and sticks to the filter when drawn up. Endos can be prepped by heating a spoon till its to hot to hold the biz end. Placing the powder in the spoon. SHocking it with saline, and drawing thru a filter. It never boils and once again the wax is collected around the filter. ANd Watson ABG’s are done cold. crushed and let sit n saline solution for 10 mins. If you dont use saline with the ABGS you WILL GET NOTHING BUT GEL the sodium keeps it from gelling. then draw it up thru a filter. THese methods are not fully esplained here but I gaurantee they will give you a stronger product than boiling the solution on an electric burner.

Comment by THom Foolery

@diane

Hey Diane. I’m an opiate user as well, and I know the pills you are talking about. They are the newest ‘pressing’ of the generic MS-Contins, known on the street as ‘peelers’ or ‘greys’. The grey ones are 100mg as you mentioned, cousins to ‘red rockets’ or ‘red peelers’, the 200mg tablet MS-Contin, and the ‘peaches’/’peach football’ 60mg plus the ‘purple football’ 30mg ones.

The best way, in my limited experience with this new form, is to either use an alcohol swab or your saliva to get the grey coating off. Get off as much as you can because I think the coating interferes somewhat with the dissolving process. Then add a full 1cc fit full of water, and then add another 30-40 units. Start with cold water because you’re going to boil it in a minute.
Boil the shit out of the thing! Like, boil it for at least 15 seconds, or as long as you can handle it. The longer you boil it the softer it’ll get — but be careful not to boil it for too long! If it starts to fall apart on it’s own you’ve boiled too long.
Use your fit with the cap on to smush the tablet — it should be soft, even if it feels like it won’t squish. Don’t be afraid to push hard — it’ll suddenly all smush at once. It sort of turns a bit gooey — this is normal, because the ‘self-defense’ mechanism of the pill is to gel up. This is the number one complaint I hear when people say they don’t like peelers. However, if you know what you’re doing, it DOESN’T MATTER if it gels up. That’s right, you won’t lose all your dope if it gels up. As a matter of fact I believe that you don’t lose any at all.
After you’ve smushed it all around, get a LARGE filter out quick, while it’s still warm, and suck up the water.
If it’s gelled up so much you can’t get any liquid, add 10-20 units of water and heat it up again. All the gel will turn white and solid (you’ll see it happening as it heats up) and the water will re-appear out of nowhere. Then quickly suck up the water before it cools.

There you have it! If after sucking up all the water you’ve only got like half a fit of water, just add 50-60 units and boil it again. This leads me into how to do the wash: just add 1cc or so of water, smush it around COLD in the gelly stuff, THEN boil it for as long as you like. It’s important to mush it up cold because this helps it break apart.

If you have any questions, come ask them on my blog:

http://ottawadownsideup.blogspot.com/

Thanks
-Max

Comment by Junkie_Monkey

Prepare a very mild Salt water solution. You just want to be able to taste the salt. THis solution will effectively breakdown the time release matrix. It works much better than excessive heat and won’t destroy your dope. My method does not call for extreme boiling because its a fact that temps above 180 F will destroy your morphine.

I cant stress the boiling part enough. ANd with my method, you’ll never have to worry about gel. THe very mild salt solutioni tackles that shit and detroys the time release like magick.
Draw up about 80 units of the solution in your syringe and set to the side. Prepare 2 cotton balls for filters. Remove the coating. Crush it, very fine. Put the dry powder in the spoon and heat slowly over a candle stirring it the whole time. You won’t a tannish brown overall color. Not too long. It will smell like “Sweet Cream” and be sure to stir it for an even color.

Now remove the spoon from the flame and shock it with the solution in your syringe. Mix it up, drop in a cotton ball and draw it up. You will notice that it WILL NOT GEL up at all. You can effectively draw up this solution using even a 30ga needle.

Now, you’ll see that some of the salt solution has reduced off. so add about 50 more units to the spoon and stir it over the flame just until it bubbles slightly and the solution thins out again. Drop in the other ball and draw this up.

You never ever want to boil morphine more than you have to. You’ll end up shooting about 40mgs off of a 100mg pill which is a total waste. ANyone who does boil their gear like the above method is ripping themselves off.

I’ve done my method next to the one above and the shot I ended up with was way stronger. I didnt even get pins and needles from the boiling method. SO please, dont boil it unless you like wasting your drugs and your money.

Comment by THom foolery

I definitely agree with THom foolery. Boiling the shit out of your preparation is NOT (not, not, not!) a good idea. You want to heat it as little as possible, while still ensuring that the powder essentially melts into the liquid, thus liquidizing also.

Just heat until tiny bubbles on the surface of the spoon, underneath the liquid, should suffice to melt all of the powder and release the morphine into the liquid.

That said, I’m definitely going to try the salt method suggested by THom. It certainly makes sense from a chemical reaction point-of-view, since we’re trying to release morphine-sulphate.

Comment by opiAted

Also… I found out that when using the Endo manufactured Ms-Contin, it works best to heat the spoon really good empty, then add the powdered morphine, and stir it over the flame… careful. Just brown it slightly… THis will save you time if you start with a hot spoon. Then shock it. I find that if I do at least 3 washes I can extract pretty much all the morphine. You must use a 3ml syringe to get it all out. Insulin syringes just arent big enough and youll never get it all aout. I generally do about 120 to 180mgs per shot. THats 2 or 3 6omg pills. I know I get most of the drug out because Ill suck on the left over wax and I cant taste hardly any drug in it at all. Trust me…. use a 3ml syringe, 3 washes, light salt water, and dont boil it…. It makes for one helluvea hit!! You’ll love it if you like that morphine rush. Some people cant stand the hot pins and needles…. I cant get enough. ENjoy!

Comment by Thom Foolery

Yes, using a 3ml syringe really does enable you to get the most morphine extracted into your hit. No doubt about it. I too use a 3 ml when preparing a hit of two or more contins. Of course, you’re left with next to nothing to save as a wash for a rainy day, but that’s a fair trade off for one heck of a better whack!

Comment by opiAted

Is this for real? Correct me if I’m wrong but are you all druggies giving eachother advice on how to take drugs and you’re leaving your name and personal information? Aren’t u ashamed?!

Comment by Carol

Hey jimmy. Learn to spell you piece of Shit! All we are doing is trying to help people do it the right way. With as little harm as possible. I have since quit using and am on a Methadone based treatment program but I still understand the addiction. JUst so you know you half illiterate POS, I majored in Comp Sci, and minored in Chem. SO this makes me the perfect candidate to help people satisfy their needs, until they one day decide they have to quit. So why dont you go fuck yourself, and work on a car or jerk off to some gay porn. People that call out faggOts, are actually the real deal. Notice…. Faggot is spelled with an o.

Comment by Thom Foolery

Oh, and Carol… It’s people, ignorant fucking uppity piece of shit people like you that make me sick. “Druggies”? Didn’t you take the time to think , “Ummmm, maybe the email contacts they are leaving are all tied to fake personal info?” No, because you are an ignorant bitch with nothing better to do than put down people struggling with problems that you couldn’t possibly comprehend. So if you have nothing to say to help out and keep people from hurting themselves. How about stick to your cross stitch and jigsaw puzzle sites and allow people who know what they are talking about to aid in the queries posted here.

Comment by Thom Foolery

Wow, attacking people for leaving comments is really, really mature.

We’ve all had to deal with people saying stupid shit like that. But attacking them does nothing but bolster their arguments.

Comment by Junkie_Monkey

You’re right…

Comment by Thom_Foolery

great info guys.til now i didnt have any idea how to do mine.i get 15mg and 60mg morphine sulfate er for pain and wondered how to do them. i am a former meth head and miss the rush somedays.is this the same?thanks foir the info…..

Comment by hohn

I have the 30 mg morphine sulfate with ABG imprinted. Back in the day I used to do oxys, and I always heated them to get the most potent shot. But this doesn’t work with morphine, I know. I have limited tools at my disposal. I want to try the saline method, but maybe I’m suffering from information overload because I’m a little confused about which pills require which method.

Comment by Shanon Lusher

Hi guys,
Thanks for the info, am very interested in the saline shock idea,, SWIM has a bunch of slow release MSTs, but although I used to do morphine amps, I stopped IVing them due to the horrid pins.and needles and the need to go so bloody slowly to avoid it! Is there any way to take out the pins n needles feeling? Without adding AA OR hydrochoric acid, neither which my pal has. Would the saline shock help here? Or is my pal doomed to feel it wen banging up morphine? Please respond!

Comment by Erin

love all the good info here makes lots of since like toms input allows stronger safer…lol way of banging also wanting to here of other sites like this so give me info guys thanks ken c.

Comment by ken c

Have any of you guys tried ophana its a oky morphine 40 mg they are basically the top dogs having trouble getting them to break down they are not turning to gel and when snorting it they hit u right away but in spoon the keep chunking up do i need more time of flushing , smashing . grinding in spoon or does most of what was said above apply for my senerio comments welcome hit me back up people happy hunting

Comment by ken c

opana ers you have to get isopropypl alcohol 70% or higher and crush the pill into about 1cc of that. THen filter the alcohol into another container and burn the filtered alcohol out of it, until all that’s left is a film. Add a capful/1cc of water to this container and stir the film into the water off the sides while adding heat or immediately after heating all the alcohol out. Just filter this into a rig and you’re good to go. It’s fucking strong as shit, this oxymorphone so be fucking careful. Shit will knock you on your ass. I’ve been using this method for 3-4 months now and never had any problems with it except for the alcohol taking awhile to filter into a rig but I use 30g is why. You can always opt for larger gauges to quicken the process I’m just lazy.

Comment by WangXor

HOW DO I SHOOT THE ORANGE MALLIES 60/M

Comment by BIRDO

THE

DO I JUST BROWN LIGHTLY IN SPOON THEN ADD SALTWATER AND PULL IN SYRINGE

Comment by BIRDO

I ve been bangin morphine pills for 15 years and Ive got some Mylan 30mg morphine pills.They are HUGE and light purple.Ive been boiling pills for years and I want to learn the salt water method for these pills.Do I crush it and heat the powder without any liquid? Is saline solution the same as salt water? These pills are nothing but binder,like an oversized Mallinkrodt actually.I really need to learn this NOW cause I’m dope sick and can’t even get enough dope out of these things to get well.My tolerance is high.Could someone who is familiar with these new Mylan 30s and the salt water method make my life easier?Sick and getting worse here.Help a fellow morpher out.

Comment by James

james use the same method asTHom Foolery said on April 13, 2010 @ 1:43 am . you with get what you want

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Comment by Urjani Salvi

Carol your and idiot. I want to know how to get rid of the coating on my 80 mg morphine without ruining the drug. I’ve detoxing methadone and collecting every drug I can so that when my dose has run out I have some back up to keep from getting to sick. at this time I have 12, oxy 30mg. 3, 80mg morphined and about 6 norcos. I will get gathering more vicodin and norco but I know my best bet is the morphine and oxys. I have saved almost 200mg of methadone to help me through the detox. I will probably have at least another 100mg of methadone juice by the time I am cut off at the clinic. Any thoughts on how I can do this as painless as possible and for sure need insight into how to break that damn coating on the morphine. All suggestions are welcome. Thanks so much, Carol King Sone

Comment by carol king sone

SWIM tried the crisping technique that Thom_Foolery talked about,and i don’t know if he crisped it to much.because he ended up with a brown heroin like liquid in the rig. What he was wanting to know is if that is normal and if that what’s suppose to happen?? if not could you explained what he did wrong.. did he crisp the mallie to long or what??

Comment by G.O.M.

Anyway, found a way to shoot a morphine sulfate 30mg white round pill. In most cases the when you add water it immediately gels up. Well try this way. Add water and dont mix up like you usually would. Do not use heat. Just add water, crush left over chunks, and mix once or twice lightly. You will see there is still liquid. Drop a decent size cotton tightly balled up and you will see it fill up with liquid immediately. Pull up, and when it sucks all the liquid out, add more and repeat the same steps. I tried heating it a little to ‘just before a boil’ when I added more water knowing it would gel up, I mixed it lightly again. But I was still able to pull up more liquid. I used about 90cc of water originally. Added about 35 the second time and ended up with about 70cc of liquid. When I injected this liquid, like 10 seconds later my face felt like pins and needles! Then it went to my hands, and then to the bottom of my feet. Im feeling pretty good now and Im guessing that that means it worked. This to me is the safest way to do it. I dont like injecting gel in my veins and Im sure you dont either. Im high, but the dilauded feels so much better! Good luck!

Comment by brandee

Been cooking only forever. Just tried cold and i must say itwss so much stronger. However i will try salt solution. Thanks for information. Carol im not going to judge but if your so offended what are you doing on this site. I can’t help thinking you’ve got a bottle of morphine in nightstand next to your bed.

Comment by rebekka

I take that back. heat the water or saline solution before you mix the pill.

Comment by rebekka

cigarette filter?? You’ve got to be out of your mind. Nothing like shooting fiberglass!

Comment by dee

I am confused on what a cold pull is. I’ve always heated my morphine, but a lot of people have been talking about a cold pull method for the abg’s. Could someone please explain how and why I should do it that way?

Comment by Brittany

The reason a lot of people like the cold method for the abg’s is because when you heat it your melting all the binders and wax In the pill. Swim told me to use ice water,as cold as you can get it and throw it on there. The therory behind it is that all the wax will seaperate and go to the top. So if you move that over and drop your mooch, then you should just get the morphine and not all the wax and binders.

Comment by GOM

I was the 1st to comment on this method years ago. It’s. Surprose that people are still commenting. the cold method is most useful on the abgs. In fact. It’s the only way to extract from them that I know of. abg’s suck. You’ll never get all the dope out. Like the previous post stated, cold cold h2o. Crush and mix well. Let it sit for a while and mix every few minutes. I use a shot glass. Used to anyway. Make sure you use a 3cc syringe and 3cc’s of water per pill.

Comment by dcroft

Also salt water works better. The salt. Helps to break down the time release matrix.
Tom foolery

Comment by dcroft

I just made up a abg 100 for the first time….and may I say Oh my. Haha

Thanks to your blogs of course. Now I know how.
Fat rush. I did the cold water way.

Grab a cold water bottle. Crises it up like cocaine. Tossed it in the spoon. Put 100 CC. Throw in some cotton and suck up. Repeat that till there’s no more powered. I got back 90 CC.

Mighty bomb. Thanks to everyones post.

Comment by santana fields

How helpful. I will try the salt method tomor. Thx Thom. Just a lil salt, right?
Ever used too much salt and harmed yourself?

Comment by Gia Gia

Nah… Just fill a shot glass with h2o and put a pinch in. That’s a good rule of thumb. Even saline solution works. Its actually best. I dont/haven’t done it in years but i never could handle more than a 3cc, 180mg shot. The pins and needles was way to intense.you’ll feel it from the soles of ur feet to the bottom of ur balls! Make sure you use a 3cc rig.

Comment by thom foolery

To GOM….
Sorry.. I just saw ur post… I don’t frequent this site andd don’t always get alerts about new posts.
You probably know this by now, but yeah, you way over did it. Use a candle, a lighter will work… Trust me. It’s easier. Stir the powder and smell. When you smell sweet cream, you are done. Less than a minute. Remove the needle, and shock it with 3cc’s of saline/salt solution. Stir and draw. Be sure to cool it. You may want to repeat. But on the 2nd, just add the solution, heat slightly, do it again. I always used 2 rigs. So I could do the sec rinse without upseting the contents of the first. Also, don’t keep the spoon directly over the flame all the time. hEat a little… Pull away.. heat is your enemy. Unfortunately it is a necessary evil. Thanks to the pharmaceutical tyrants.. this method works.. practice makes perfect. I could break down the morphine from pill to syringe in 3:45. No shit.
Always have everything ready to go before you start… Your mise en place, so to speak.

Comment by thom foolery

im a novice and “cooking” scares me a little. Re: morphine sr when crushed fine, can u smoke it like speed or coke?

Comment by Happyboy

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Comment by thomas bowser

Interesting site.I’m a heroin user myself but have also used morphine (when available)via the crushed pill method.I had an excellent connection for awhile and could get anything from the purple 30mg to the red 200s.I found the preparation tedious and had a bit of trouble using the large barrel rigs but I have to say banging the reds was better than sex.I like the little karate chop you get behind the knees and neck when it hits and the high is great with long legs.I thought it felt like being submerged in warm jello.

Comment by ScottM58

Every time I put it in my spoon … Like I just out two abg 15 ate the darn blue coating off and ten crushed them in the spoon and it gelled so bad I couldn’t fre it up I would add more water and still nothin and then I even cooked it thinkin it might help but nope nothin someone help!!!!!!!

Comment by Smitty

how do you shoot the white 30 mg morphine pills

Comment by miranda

Great info. long time addict here. never really messed with Morphine. atleast not since all the crap they put on them to keep people from shooting. like it really stops them. just hinders. like making it damn near impossible to buy new syringes. just spreads disease. doesnt keep a shooter from shooting. but today. i was dope sick. literally walking to buy a cup of coffee with last dollar. and low and behold i see a little round pill on ground. i picked it up. abg 60. i looked it up. morphine extended release. lol. broke and dope sick. hours from getting well. and it seems i was given a gift from on high. i figured i could just eat it and prolly get well atleast a little. but always hear of dry cooking, and other methods. so i just experimented. and bango. and ZANG! dont think i did it all that right, but it worked. im well. and hustlin for my dope. great page. tons of insight. please keep it up. we may be the dregs of society to Carol. but we need to keep each other safe, and informed. because nobody else will. peace! and may the loving presence of the creator be ever upon you all!

Comment by Tbizzle79

How do you boot a morphine 30 abg

Comment by tasha

Hi guys’ does anyone know how to shoot up ‘zomorph’ 100mg morphine sulphate? Very greatful for any help. Thanx the Jay.

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